Faculty Senate

UToledo Faculty Senate Transcript

September 29, 2026

1 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Okay let me say you got it We want to check one stop video. So that's ok,
so that's the.
2 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Number up on the ceiling. Okay, I'm so is that an ok angle? Cause pretty
much anybody that's like walking around that area. Oh, would you like
would you like to Renee so a little bit more? Yeah I'm looking at it
back. Yeah, I think probably oh you didn't oh, other way.
3 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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We're making everybody sit over here just because do you want me to
check? Yeah last time and she like started putting the chair back up. Oh
Dean Redder. Okay, let me let me let you. Yeah, let me. That screen's too
close to my face.
4 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Okay, you don't have to do all of them. I just do the. Like that or more
at this side I think you want. You want it more like this way?
5 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Yeah, I want this is the half of the room we're gonna use. We're trying
to keep people you know oh yeah not to back in the classroom. I guess
that's as far as I can zoom out, so. Does that look ok or.
6 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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No, I mean he won't if somebody wants unless you want to do it the other
way and use that webcam on their Well we could, we could switch that
around but then it was shine that way. I don't know what's more important
seeing these people or I think yeah yeah I like my face being shown but
yeah.
7 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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It can always be changed. You just change it to Logitech brillo. That's
this thing. So if we click on that. And then what did you hit, what's
this right here. I went down to stop video, click the little down arrow.
And then I could select, yeah. You must be through.
8 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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So if this were turned around this way yeah let me switched it, then it
would look like that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, which you know could give NO NO
you want it the other way? No, NO, not only we can do it with the
audience. Sorry, you're all good. You want it like that. Yeah.
9 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Looking at people. Yeah I think so. So now that the presenters? Yeah.
How, ok, the presenters would be up here, up here, would you like it, how
can we move it up just. It's kind of. Yeah, I mean you could if you.
10 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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If you get really good at this you can you could do it like that. You
need to be able to see the screen we'll just leave it like this and then
if you get really like fancy good with it, you could Did you just show
her how to have someone just whoever's speaking.
11 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Just wander up here. Yeah. So they wander up there and then They would
see them. Okay, by your. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Like in that area.
So we'll just sort of not use this front road. Yes. Okay ok. So then this
would be.
12 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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The mic that's right for the micro. That's not right for the speaker, we
want this one. So can I do a test? Someone was over. Switch over.
13 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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You wanted to not let me test speaker that one up there and this will be
a testing my promise me.
14 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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I didn't get side of the room? That seemed ok. No, you can't sit on this.
Yeah. But yeah, if you end up not like in this camera, you just come down
here. I'm like a compliment. So I'm like complimentary.
15 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Yeah, and I think. I am not going to be you also have some spots here.
16 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Like where is where are all the people like I realized it was like where
is we have a week and a half before that like mess you up a little bit
like.
17 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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The share. Yes. Right.
18 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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David, can you see us and see that the PowerPoint slides full times?
Where do you.
19 "Harold, David Thomas" (300960000)
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And yes, I can see them quite well.
20 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Cool, we can hear you fine, so that that's great. Thank you.
21 "Harold, David Thomas" (300960000)
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Harvelous, thank you so much.
22 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Do you want to left unmuted. Okay, so we. Okay, so you were saying just
leave it as this is being and you know where.
23 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Yeah yeah yeah in the back. He's an older gentleman. Are you going to
switch between different presentations? I am. What i'll do is I'll, that
always confused me.
24 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, you don't want to detour me. Yeah. Next week I
gotta go to. I think Amber is gonna sit out there for a.
25 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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I think the whole research doesn't recruit. Okay, ok. Yes yes, thank you.
And they said the last time with the mouse trouble.
26 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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That could happen here. Yeah, she lives here. I mean she's like yeah this
is a touch screen yeah touch screen Fancy over here. That is fancy. Be
careful not to touch it. I know.
27 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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We're all the same age, Didn't you guys. Yes.
28 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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We can ask everybody to be on this half later. We already did. Notice the
seats and I had a conversation with the right on the right side.
Electrified.
29 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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No observers from the very far pinned she's in the corner and the
feather's always. Only in case I need to side, which I know that it is a
very good meeting and I would almost never do that. If we wind up in
overtime.
30 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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You're not gonna go into overtime. What do we last time we did get told.
No, we didn't. Bet you a thousand million dollars. We did not do
overtime. I touched someone up inappropriately last time before 06:00 and
now we're devoting.
31 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Almost the entire, well Bill mcfaroury is coming because of her question.
I am redeeming. Okay, ok, we will I will speak with the the lady that
followed the procedure to ask her if you'd never ever stole a few months
from experience six I'm extremely well behaved back here. I am nearly
supportive and engaged with that.
32 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Yeah, I was hearing about saying that NSM has a very proud tradition of
Halloween engagement in college, which is nice. Yeah. Is that ok? I
remember the the many like.
33 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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From Frankenstein kind of video which looks very good. Are you planning
anything for this year? Well I'm not one of the participants, I must say.
I'm one of the lazy professors. We have some other ones that are move out
to you. I think Halloween is a special commitment for special people and
the ones who really love it and astonishing things.
34 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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A guy that she Renee is very soy and he saw his customers. Oh my
goodness. And we are some people, some beach districts that really go.
Great all the way. Well, last year for the presidents thing, I brought
out sparkly shoes and I think I got a one.
35 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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But this year I will not be in town, so unfortunately, NO costing for me,
but I don't know. We have some folks who are very excited about the
decorating the office for homecoming so that we may get our our
Homecoming as next week. Next week. So that's much before, haven't we? It
is and just so everyone knows we are.
36 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Bulls and not a bill of bill. Oh my god. I may have made that mistake I
thought it was the bill. Oh, we did make that mistake and I made it in
public and then was mocked by so many people afterwards with a real
commitment. I was like, ok, fair, it's one vowel and.
37 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Yep, I just, I don't know enough. I honestly thought it was a buffalo
bills I would have said like Steve, it's so it's like the Steve well
apparently Renee, the bills are NFL team and the Mac league would not be
participating. So, so now, now you and I have the same level of
information about this.
38 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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But it'll be a good get, I'm sure. The band always does a really good job
also. The bills I don't know why are we asking me? And the bills are a
team that we would play in our league.
39 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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There you go. Let me see. Thank you. Because the rest of us are. You
would think so because it's pretty slim tonight.
40 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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That could be it. Everybody's I would say everybody going to the pitch
but there is NO new. Okay. Oh, they're starting to come.
41 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Well, we have Tom Moreland coming next time, so he'll be able to educate
all of us. I see my name.
42 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Yes, we have only two deals present right now. Okay, not sure. I'm
starting to think like, ok.
43 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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I see you.
44 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Are you. Oh my people who best like oh ok I had some trees to turn in our
office.
45 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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They were hitting the seal and so they had that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
46 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Oh, ok. How are you? Yes yes. One is.
47 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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And also NO resubmission. And then waited two months to tell you.
48 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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You could put the this like I saw that takes like I done a couple of
sites. I feel like this I didn't know, I didn't know that I.
49 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Yeah, there's a mistake. And then I mean the worst thing is that they
only found one reviewer. I just wanted to know, I agree.
50 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah.
51 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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No, NO, not.
52 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Yeah, everybody's trying that same kind of like their other.
53 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Thank you so much.
54 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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President Heberle Called the Meeting to Order: Okay.
Yeah, I know. All right, we need to start our meeting, everyone.
Meetings, everyone. Happy fall. It is officially fall, and it feels like
it outside. And I'm sorry we're not all outside. Maybe some of you are
with your computers online.
55 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Our 1st item on our agenda is, to approve the agenda, so if we could see
the agenda, that would be great.
56 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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You had it up a second ago or whatever.
57 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Okay just still getting customers Yes. Yeah Okay let's see if that will
work.
58 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Can everybody see this? The agenda? Why don't put the chat up next
somewhere so that we can see if people are providing and.
59 "Wade Lee-Smith (he/him) Libraries" (1979752448)
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We are not seeing it online, we are seeing the other screen with the
directory.
60 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Thanks very much. Okay. Where it is. We're all good now. Alright, so if
you can scroll down please to show everyone.
61 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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II. Approval of the Agenda: Yeah, NO, you can stop yeah and try
to get the bulk of it on here. So without objection, we will go ahead and
approve the agenda by consent. Any objections on the floor? The agenda is
approved by.
62 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Soon, thank you.
63 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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I. Senator Barnes (substitute for Dr. Raghav Khanna)
Called Roll: Hello Yeah, I did not bring anything. We'll call the
role.
64 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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J Alabisia? Am and all red? I'll make sure people can hear me. He was
online. Can we hear people. Can you hear me online?
65 "Bob Yonker" (1204946176)
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Yes, we can hear you. Okay, is that Amen? No, this is Bob. Thanks Bob.
66 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Peter Andrehanna, Raghav Osciley, I see. Lizabeltas.
67 "Baltus Zych, Melissa" (4083117056)
00:22:13.424 --> 00:22:16.043
Here. Bruce.
68 "Ahalapitiya Jayatissa" (884127488)
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Amber.
69 "Bruce Bamber" (1038338560)
00:22:16.884 --> 00:22:20.682
Here. John Bolissi?
70 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Sherry Betton. Jolian Borneck.
71 "Jillian Bornak (NSM)" (3331371520)
00:22:29.117 --> 00:22:30.904
Jillian here.
72 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Juway Chen.
73 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:22:39.516 --> 00:22:41.524
Jill Cherry Bookuitz.
74 "Jill Cherry-Bukowiec" (3033600256)
00:22:41.524 --> 00:22:45.748
Present, Wendy Cockran.
75 "Cochrane, Wendy" (170162432)
00:22:45.748 --> 00:22:48.528
Present.
76 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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In Concorra.
77 "Compora, Daniel Patrick" (1654811648)
00:22:49.585 --> 00:22:52.527
Christopher.
78 "Ahalapitiya Jayatissa" (884127488)
00:22:52.527 --> 00:22:57.165
The cooper do you think so.
79 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Ivana dealer cern up.
80 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:23:03.142 --> 00:23:07.605
Ob Equina.
81 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Pretty much. Ryan Fink.
82 "Brian Fink - HHS" (1033677312)
00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:18.959
Present.
83 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Diana France. Tory Smith here? David Juvenupti. Jennifer Glassman.
84 "Jenn Glassman" (3764173824)
00:23:44.346 --> 00:23:45.488
Here.
85 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Stephen Holler.
86 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:23:51.323 --> 00:23:57.468
Sally Harmage.
87 "Harmych, Sally E." (1359520768)
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I'm here.
88 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Dave Harrot. Was that of here?
89 "Harold, David Thomas" (300960000)
00:24:05.005 --> 00:24:08.088
And is it here? Thank you.
90 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:24:08.088 --> 00:24:09.685
Gary inch.
91 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:24:12.586 --> 00:24:20.563
Andrea Callanoski.
92 "Kalinoski, Andrea" (1457654784)
00:24:20.563 --> 00:24:23.378
Here. Thank you.
93 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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David Crance. Crance here. Mirenda Kumar. Here, sorry. Wadeley Smith.
Wadeley Smith present? Glenn Lipscomb.
94 "Glenn Lipscomb" (1092675840)
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Present.
95 "Loulwa Maktabi" (2839731712)
00:24:58.744 --> 00:25:03.258
Present, Jeffrey Martin. Yeah. Yeah.
96 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Under Madison I saw Nicole MacKenzie.
97 "Nicole McKenzie" (1715870208)
00:25:06.767 --> 00:25:11.342
Here for reminder.
98 "Barbara Miner" (786592256)
00:25:11.342 --> 00:25:18.317
Present, you need a Mongo.
99 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Jerry Necessivony.
100 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:25:27.663 --> 00:25:30.227
Leslie Newland Brown.
101 "Leslie Neyland-Brown" (806384896)
00:25:30.227 --> 00:25:32.824
Present.
102 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:25:32.824 --> 00:25:41.867
Rob Padia here. Scott Papata. Here, Ashley Fryer.
103 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:25:43.987 --> 00:25:45.304
Justin Reinert.
104 "Justin Reinert" (2636602112)
00:25:45.304 --> 00:25:46.769
Here.
105 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Very Sureman.
106 "Barry Scheuermann" (321782528)
00:25:48.782 --> 00:25:54.122
Here. Gabby Simon.
107 "Semaan, Gaby" (2103894016)
00:25:54.122 --> 00:25:56.089
Present.
108 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:25:56.089 --> 00:26:06.345
Linda Spear, oh thanks Linda. Robert Steven.
109 "Steven, Robert" (4265682688)
00:26:06.345 --> 00:26:10.145
Rob's even on the move but present.
110 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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The call stops here. Done wedding.
111 "Don Wedding" (4085982976)
00:26:18.961 --> 00:26:21.807
Here.
112 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:26:21.807 --> 00:26:24.686
James Willie.
113 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:26:28.825 --> 00:26:30.643
Bob Yanker.
114 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:26:32.888 --> 00:26:53.029
Thank you. Thank you. I think some folks might have come in and might
want to look at the chat. Thank you. Thank you. Hello. Hi, thank you.
Humans came in. Thanks everyone, thanks for being.
115 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Aaron for being us to forum today.
III. Approval of the Minutes: We will now approve the minutes
that were sent out on Friday with the agenda without objection, any
objections? Any.
116 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Significant changes. Thank you. The minutes are now approved by consent.
The faculty sent an executive report.
117 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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IV. Executive Committee Report: The vice president of
strategic Enrollment management, Tony Born is leaving us. After a bit
more than two years of service, the search is underway Mike Heaven of
physics and astronomy, but perhaps more important for this audience, a
long term incur.
118 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:27:50.539 --> 00:28:09.569
Committed member of the Senate Recruitment and retention Committee is on
the search committee, and there is a search firm guiding the process. The
goal is to have a person in place by January of 27. Short and quick, get
it going, keep up the momentum.
119 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:28:09.569 --> 00:28:25.709
Our RRC will continue to build close ties with the enrollment team and
communicate with all faculty as to what we can do to support the plan for
growth in the coming years as outlined in growing for Toleto.
120 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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We have identified a faculty member to take the lead on the design and
implementation of the faculty survey on service starting in summer of
2027, and we are working to establish the terms and timeline of the work.
121 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Another initiative of the Senate this year is to review our committee
structures. Nothing has been proposed as yet, conversation to begin, but
we now have eleven committees.
122 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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So this would be a process and a conversation over the next year and I'm
bringing it now to the floor because we really need suggestions about our
committee structure and the number of our committees and if any can be
combined, if we can change up something.
123 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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To help us both with the service requirements and also to make sure we
have very proactive committees who are are working on issues and tasks,
for any, all the practiced and hard working colleagues who have served on
our committees over the years. So if you could send your ideas,
suggestions to the faculties.
124 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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In an office, the FSEC will be discussing this over the next several
months. The committee structure can be changed by a two thirds majority
vote of a quorum of Senate, so that it's in the rules, so it's not a vote
of all faculty, so this is something to think about and work on over the
next year.
125 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Examples might be to combine the faculty and student affairs committee or
combine the elections in the Constitution and rules committee. Those are
just brainstorming suggestions, ok? So speaking of committees everybody
listen up?
126 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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The Academics program committee still only has four members and NO chair.
This is very bad. Not that bad. Sharon continues to work on it.
Currently, the colleges that are are represented.
127 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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To each case yay. Business innovation? Yay engineering boo. No
representation. No representation. Law boo, NO representation. Library.
Yay.
128 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Confirmed. Natural science and mathematics yay confirmed. Pharmacy boo,
nobody. College of medicine and life science boo, nobody. So get on it.
We need an academic programs committee soon. A correction HHS does have.
So change them to a yay. Oh yay!
129 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Good, five members. Good update Yes. Thank you very much. Okay. Thanks.
Alright, FSCC FECSCEC is working with the undergraduate curriculum
committee together with the Provos office to review the, the, to improve
the curricular review process still.
130 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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FSSC will be asking college councils to suggest earlier deadlines for
college level review, e.g.. The new GCC deadline for submission is March
second. You can find that on the page, but we cannot have a fire hose of
proposals on 1 March, so we really need you to be getting your proposals
in on a regular basis and organizing all of that is difficult, but we're
working on it. The committee and the Senate as a whole cannot properly
review curriculum under those.
131 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Circumstances, so shared governance becomes more performative than
substantive, so we really do need you to work on these proposals early
and often and get them running through the Kim system. And we will hear
briefly today from the UGCC about the status of the review project of the
review process. The budget committee continues to engage proactively with
finance and will have a report from the committee in the office of the
CFO shortly, and the reason I bring this up is that we've had several
questions coming through about the budget.
132 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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And about allocation of funds, so some of the questions that the budget
committee is working on responding to include the use of indirect funds
for research grants, the status of funds from the sale of our parking and
the loan from Huntington, the general patterns of allocation across the
entities that comprise the enterprise that is the University of Tolebo.
133 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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So many of those questions are included in what the budget committee is
working on. If you have more, please send them our way. I presented our
report at the Academic and Student affairs Committee of the Board of
Trustees on 9 May September on Monday, 21 September.
134 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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And attended. I attended the full BOT meeting on Wednesday, last
Wednesday at 923I wanted to give a shout out to the students who
presented at the board meeting. It was brilliant, and I'm sure the pro
boast is gonna have a few things to say about that as well and.
135 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Invitations to classes have gone out to the BOT. We should be hearing
from interested board of trustee members in the next few weeks and
currently the number of faculty inviting board of trustee members took
classes is 27.
136 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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44 classes offered up, and I just want to stay because, you know, Jh case
and all over half of the classes offered are from JH case, so step it up
all your other colleges, get on it. This is a process, it's not gonna
begin, it's not gonna have an endpoint, so just keep a.
137 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Common, keep the invitations coming and we will keep the board of
trustees informed as to their options. I already told them they can get
bachelors and individualized studies if they take all these courses and
we'll give it to them for free. Just kidding. We'll make them pay. Last
but not least, the FSDCC discussed and communicated with the
administrator.
138 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Concerns on the health science campus about support for faculty
participating in the neurosciences major. The College of Medical life
Sciences is only recently introduced undergraduate teaching and
recognition of this new element for some faculty by way of workload and
evaluation is crucial for the success of that major, and we've been
talking about that with the pro boast and are trying to keep track of the
progress on.
139 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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And comms around the treatment of faculty teaching for neurosciences. So,
that is my report and I'm going to now turn it over to dr. McKinney, our
pro boast. I promised him a fancy introduction. I'm just gonna call him
the pro boast from Paradise because he is from Paradise Kentucky so.
V. Reports:
140 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Provost McKinney: Some people will get that reference. So there's
a, there's a song Paradise City. I'm from Newman County in Kentay. Oh,
the name of the town is paradise. That's an actual town.
141 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Yes yes yes, I was born in paradise. It's NO longer there. Here because
we're next that they wanted to see us. And so now there we are ok very
good three quarter term, we call it here. Oh, that's right, so I can
speak to you and I can see all the way in the back now yes, you know what
we say about.
142 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Get those students to go to the back row, right? I like Renee's like boom
and work that in and if you get too roddy, I have wire cutters here.
Plant cutters wow, you've got some big plants.
143 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Okay, very good. Thank you, thank you. So a few reminders and then I want
to say a few words about the strategic plan that was approved by the
board last Wednesday, the weeks they just Yes, last Wednesday. Reminders
that.
144 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Student progress reports are now open, available. You can submit those
through navigate three 60. These are used by advisors to to flag
concerns, but also you can submit, you know, doing well and and that's
important too. So submit your.
145 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Student progress reports. Midterm grades will open on Monday. When I 1st
saw that announcement I thought, oh my midterm grades opening on Monday.
It's scary, isn't it? No, NO, but we'll open on Monday will run through
Sunday 1 November. So please submit required for 1000 2000.
146 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Courses encourage and encouraged for 3000 4000 level courses and this
will provide students that feedback that they need. Very important, very
important. Also, and we're gonna put this in the in the link or or in the
group, the chat a link to.
147 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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To nominate outstanding staff awards. Please, please please please
consider nominating staff for the outstanding staff award and actually
that deadline is coming up Friday Friday, October second. So, please pay
attention to that. I also would like to bring to your attention and then
I think we can put either in the chat if we can drop a file, a PDF or
we'll have Punetta send it out to everyone. The board approves.
148 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Growing for Toleto strategic plan, that the board approved last
Wednesday. Now, I I actually if you saw my version here, it is marked up,
it is circled. It is, this is not to be a document that we put on the
shelf, this five year plan with metrics. And also I would call your
attention, you will find our mission statement. Actually, it's a revised
mission statement for the university.
149 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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University of Chiledo proudly rooted in Northwest Ohio prepares students
for personal professional success, expands human knowledge and
capability, delivers exceptional advanced care for patients drives
innovation, economic growth for our region and beyond, and a, a a.
150 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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A newly adopted vision statement from the university. University of
Toledo will be the region's leader in learning discovery, patient care,
creating opportunity for Northwest Ohio and the world. Now, there are
elements of our strategic plan, and you'll remember the present.
151 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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And it was here like the 1st meeting of faculty senate. I think this
semester and he had slides and he was giving you an update on, on, on the
pillars, the five pillars of the plan and you will find them again listed
realizing Utilito advantage. The Utilito advantage pillar contains our
enrollment, aspirations, goals, our student success measures, and, and
one of which is yes, 100 % of our.
152 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Our Utilito students will engage in experiential learning and then other
measures I'll I'll note in just a second. Our pillar of driving research
and innovation. 3rd pillar, building healthy toleto. I say this is the
health metrics in UTMC. Our 4th pillar in.
153 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Aging our partners and then finally optimizing our institutional systems.
Now, I encourage you to familiarize yourself, your, your, your plan may
not be as marked up as mine as as as it identifies the provos responsible
for pillar one where yes.
154 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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We will achieve 100 % of our students engage in experiential learning.
Also in pillar one yes, in a five year period, we will take the current
top line, I call it top line when I'm looking at our enrollment numbers
of, of overall headcount of 14000 oh two nine this fall to 16000.
155 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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To 16000. Yes, we will. My plan is marked up by where we need to be year
one to get to the 16 where we need to be year 2345. Renee has mentioned
that we are currently searching Tony born.
156 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Is is leading us and then we're going to build on the great work that has
been happening and enrollment management. I'm very, very pleased. It's
kind of like you know when you give someone a thumbs up or poke on social
media. I'm not pleased that Tony it has taken a new opportunity
elsewhere, but pleased to be sharing that search committee. Renee
mentioned that Mike Human is a part of the search committee Sunday griff.
157 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Who is on the enrollment management staff, Nicole Simsack, who is our
vice president for marketing and communication and Sabrina Taylor, who is
our associate vice president for finance, is on the, the, the, the search
committee. We have started the process very aggressively, Isaac's.
158 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:42:33.850 --> 00:42:53.850
Bill are leading the search has now released the position profile and is
and and is actively searching for candidates. I sent the profile out
yesterday, today to to promo staff, to Deans of ok folks, let's work our
network.
159 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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And let's find a, a, a top notch. We're, we're calling it vice president
for strategic enrollment management. And so that certainly as we head
towards 16000 students, and you'll read the plan, to get us there, it is
a year over year new student at the undergraduate level of increasing by
at least 3 % at the graduate level by three and a half percent. Okay.
160 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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And, and, and, and, and we will do that. As we look at other metrics,
taking our current 59.2 % graduation rate to 62 %, taking our 1st to
second year persistence of 78 current 78.4 % to 83 % and our current.
161 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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The 1st to 3rd year persistence, current rate of 70.8 % to 73 and a half
percent. Actually, you know, Angela and I have talked about this on a few
of these, I said why not higher? Why not more? And then I said, Oh good.
So when we overachieve we won't get boo. We'll Get. So.
162 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Yes, I I am, I was very pleased when the board approved this plan. I
think I would call them realistic metrics that we can achieve in growing
the University of Toledom.
163 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Thank you, Renee. I didn't turn it off and pivot to the groups. Questions
for the promost? This exponential learning, do we have a definition for
that? What does it mean for the student? Does the student know what it
is? Is it somewhere public or this is something still.
164 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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No, it, it is say a definition, the types of cocurricular learning, let's
say well defined in terms of rather broad, internships, co ops, clinical
activities, study abroad, other, other, experiential learning activities
related to.
165 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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To the major, do students know so yes, we have been rolling out certainly
to this cohort and advisors who will be tracking and and to to academic
units dean's chairs in terms of implementing the, the experiential
learning. So so they need to be somebody that decided that this.
166 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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And I should have said an undergraduate research because we've got some
departments where they are already at a hundred percent of all of their
majors are engaged in undergraduate research with faculty. Yes yes. Is
this need to require approval by somebody? Does the student, there is a
process of approving Yes, this student did.
167 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Well, this is just something yes. Advisors working with, but at at last
count, I had a meeting on this one a couple of days ago where we have the
list of I'll forget the percentage, but well over 7580 plus percent of
these activities are requirements in.
168 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Major. And so as in the students enrolled in a course and then that
checks the box that they they have enrolled in that course. They did
something in the community? Yes, then there is a, what is it called? They
apply online zero credit or they apply and then they check that box.
169 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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It wasn't, it wasn't credit in the major if it was through the other.
Yes. Now, and in some ways and we had a question here, you know, Tomber
on that one, as I've, you know, been recounting metrics and and goals,
some of these, you know, some have used the term stretch goals then and
and it it's going to take a lift.
170 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Of all of us, on our experiential learning, all of our students, I I'm
not losing sleep over that one at night, in terms of Yes, all of our
students will, will be engaged in co curricular learning. Yes. Yeah, will
there be more support, more funding for study abroad? We used to have
travel grants. This was, you know, was giving up.
171 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Travel grants for students, but that the source is not, there's NO more
NO more money for that. It would really help for students if there would
be more money to actually study abroad. Thank you, thank you. When, when
was that meeting? This is Tuesday, so it was Friday or Thursday Friday.
172 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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And I said, ok, is it, is it Shenrend, you know, Director of
International programs? I said, ok, and I won't mention amounts, but
here's a pot of money and and how are we going to work out the program to
increase the number of funded students and study abroad programs? And
similarly, we did this last year in terms of increasing our funded
students in the undergraduate research, pot.
173 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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And, and I said, ok, let's examine there. Do we need to also increase
that support but at the top of the list is, is study abroad. Thank you.
Yeah, that's good to hear. Yeah, you know, and, and actually that was
prompted for me as I came to the realization so we had the, the
activities fair like the during the 1st week and we were out on.
174 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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On the Centinio Mall and and we had an ascend, display and booth and and
there was an interactive activity with students coming by. It's like, ok,
what would be your dream experiential learning or what, what would you
like to do? And they wrote it on post it notes and they stuck it on a
board and I, I came by and I was.
175 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Reading all of these. Now I didn't pull all the post it notes down into
account, but the large number of students who wrote study abroad. That's
great. As the activity that they desire to engage in while while they
were here at as an undergraduate with us. And then we also know when we,
when we talk to students about study abroad.
176 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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God, it's the cost that is prohibitive. Exactly. Yeah, thank you for
raising that. I saw Renee's hand. I'll call it myself. I, we will have a
member of the SN committee and Tyler Lawson come to Senate because this
is such a huge shift, not shift, it's not a huge shift, we're already
doing this, but it's a different way of representing what we already do.
177 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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So we will be having someone come from this meeting to present to sanate
within the next couple of minutes. Very good. Thank you. Yes, so I I
think a lot has moved. A lot of the pieces have moved into place so we
need to get an update.
178 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Take on all of that and yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I've got one more
question, mentioned. Yeah, thank you for sharing that with what you said
about you know the recruiting committee, enrollment committee, however
you wanna put it here. That's much appreciated from everybody. My
question is in regards.
179 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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To the growth of the Institute numbers, where did the FTEs fit in in this
numbers picture? Like when you say 16000 is there, is there a certain
number of FTEs that we're talking about? Is it just part timers as well?
Is it Yeah I don't know the exact formula on how the FTE is calculated
but.
180 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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But we, we, we do monitor, we see that, but the I call it again the top
line is is headcount. You know, headcount is made up of all students CCP,
e.g., who are enrolled in, say, well not all are enrolled in a single
class, some are enrolled in, in multiple classes, but, so that the
headcount number takes into account all learners, all students enrolled.
181 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Thank you, thanks. Any other questions, anything online? Saying nothing
in the chat. I'm not seeing any hands up. Okay, thank you for. Our next
report is from Sharon Barnes who attends.
182 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Did the facilities meeting led by Jason Tothe?
Senator Barnes: Yes, I did and I was taking notes at a blistering
pace and could not keep up with the massive amount of projects going on.
So forgive me if something I have is not exactly right, but I'm gonna try
to hit some highlights. The rec center roof replacement is due to be
complete in a.
183 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:51:56.570 --> 00:52:16.570
The month these are ongoing 1st the should be done by the mid oct mid
October. The one stop welcome center just finished, looks great. Student
union union renovations will be starting in the spring of 27 or will be
done in the spring of 27.
184 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:52:16.570 --> 00:52:42.530
They are hoping to expand the solar field was it ok and an underground
tunnel, and I said from lot five south of the rec center to the mall. I
don't know if I to me, I don't know, I couldn't picture it in my head,
but that's that's what I wrote down. And a lot of comments about rocket
hall and where people are moving and what's happening.
185 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:52:42.530 --> 00:53:02.530
Happening with that facility. News to me, very good news to me that there
the daycare center will be reopened, but I can believe that we didn't
know that. Go ahead. It is the daycare center we currently have one, it's
off the health science campus. That's the early learning center and they
are going to be moving.
186 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Getting out of that building and moving them to the main campus
childcare. To the old childcare stuff that was really, really wonderful.
Yes. Yes. Is it gonna be called Apple tree? No science campus things, a
new student loungery Mulford library will.
187 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Be open in mid October. Academic testing center is in phase one of
renovations. Renovations also in colleyer classrooms. I know this isn't
right the cat lab problem. I wish we had a cat lab.
188 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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I was assisting online, it was hard to hear too, so that was the part I
knew it wasn't the cathland. So some clinical things, some things that
Dana Center adding some things also tons of acronyms I couldn't follow.
Second floor of Carlson Library, the teaching center, this is upcoming.
189 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Hoping to be online for spring of 27. Consolidating IT on the health
science campus into a tighter location. Accelerators at the Dana Cancer
Center, that's a year out, roof replacement of university Hall starting
after.
190 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Announcement of this year, that's a longer duration project. I had it
wasn't entirely clear but I think maybe phases and then a new underground
tunnel, again, I don't know if that's the same tunnel we mentioned
before, and so I'm sorry I can't give you more detail on that, but it was
really it was like drinking from a high or something.
191 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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They then the folks who were attending like just raised questions and
issues and a couple of things came up that I thought, oh wait, one more
thing, you, the the plan for UT health, health centers around the
community is gonna involve some cap.
192 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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No investment. So there was investment in terms of facility, so I don't
know how that that's new, so I'm sure it wasn't in any budget that was
created previously, but I think that'll be something we'll hear more
about. So that was the last thing there. And then there were some
questions about the work order system and how quickly people were able
to.
193 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Get back and one of the things they said was, you know, like everyone
else they experienced some budget cuts too, but they're, they're trying
to triage, prioritize, get back with people as soon as they can. And, I
think most of the rest of the questions oh something about lake Earry
Center.
194 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Classroom services and also the security surveillance related to
upgrading the technology because you, you, you preserve the surveillance
video for a certain number of days and they're, they're not happy at all
with the amount of days they're able to reserve right now, so they're,
they're working.
195 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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And, and I think that's pretty much all the that's all the stuff I could
literally keep up with as they were writing it down, so I probably won't
be able to answer any questions, but I would be willing to try. Sure.
Yes. Do you have any idea when that daycare center will be up here and on
our camp cause I have a colleague who would really welcome them. It'll be
reopening in the building next door. No, I don't have a date. We can
follow up with do do you? Do you all know where of things? Nope.
196 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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Oh, I thought you were gonna see it. No, I just was saying I don't know
what the timeline is. Okay. But I did hear it was happening. FSEC will
discuss bringing Jason Toast to Senate if that, if folks would like to
have him come and because I think there's some confusion also about the
status of the master plan and how all this detail.
197 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
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The Reporting that Sharon offered and all these changes fit with this
thing. We were calling a master plan last year and now seems to be on the
sideline. But rocket hall is still standing and apparently is going to
remain standing. So, that kind of thing. Yes. I was just gonna say just
for the minutes of this body and for folks who are interested, so HR has
moved to rocket hall. Just I know there's been some announcements on
that, but just for this group since we are employees that make use of HR.
198 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:57:26.850 --> 00:57:46.850
They've moved out to space that's now gonna be reoccupied as a daycare
center. Did Scott Hall did ask a question about the capital planning and
their response was that they're working with the administration and the
board of trustees, but a little bit on pause because of the strategic
plan changing and that that might change.
199 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:57:46.850 --> 00:58:06.850
I also wanna say those of you who have heard me ask the president about
the inclusive wall of excellence that was removed from you Hall and the
portraits taken down. The answer that I asked the question at, at the
meeting, the answer I got was it came out of the.
200 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:58:06.850 --> 00:58:26.850
Implementation committee for senate Ville one so I'm following up on
that, but Jason did not know at that moment where the portraits were. I I
mean it's a obviously he's got a lot going on, but I we're gonna I'm
gonna keep following up on it. My recollection is.
201 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:58:26.850 --> 00:58:46.850
Lilly mccuther asked for the materials that came off the wall. I hope he
received them. Yeah, last I talked to him, he hadn't. Oh, but I, it's
important to us, it's important to our history and there are all kinds of
ways we can name that wall that would not be in violation of the law. So
I, that's something that's just really important to talk to a lot of.
202 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:58:46.850 --> 00:58:51.510
So we'll we'll be following up with that. Thanks a lot. Thank you sir.
203 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:58:51.510 --> 00:59:10.650
Our next item on the agenda is Rob Adia with the curricular report very
shortly.
Senator Padilla: Can I sit here and do it? You can sit there. I
think we can be picked up Picked up unless you'd like to come down front.
I'll try to stay here, but I'll go down if I, you can't hear me. Okay,
ok. So.
204 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:59:10.650 --> 00:59:30.650
This is just an update of what undergrad curriculum committee has been
doing since the start of the semester. Lynn wrote this report, so I want
to give her credit for that. And I'm just gonna read it so it's in the
minutes and if you guys have questions, feel free to ask me after I read
it. UGCC has been meeting. Many proposals came in over the summer. I
believe.
205 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:59:30.650 --> 00:59:48.870
Believe when we started classes we had 85 proposals in our queue, which
is not, that's not, that's more unusual but not too bad. We recently
received word that the Provos office is simplifying the Kim proposal
requirements and we found that out about a week ago and that kind of made
us do.
206 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
00:59:48.870 --> 01:00:08.870
An immediate freeze frame. We are suspending review of proposals until we
receive final word from the progress office on criteria. We just can't
move forward till we know how we're supposed to evaluate. All proposals
already submitted and we've kind of committed to this will be reviewed as
they are following earlier criteria with the.
207 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:00:08.870 --> 01:00:29.880
Caveat that they should not pose any problem and we're gonna ensure that
they will not need to be redone. And so we'll do that by Lynn most likely
directly communicating with departments to make sure everything is ok.
Yes. Question is, my question is the requirements for curriculum.
208 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:49.880
Aren't those faculty Senate requirements not, not Provos office
requirements? So why would we be waiting on what's gonna be on there's
information that gets entered into Kim that now needs to appear on our
syllabyte required by the state. And so we just need to make sure that
the information that is being.
209 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:00:49.880 --> 01:01:08.730
Being entered cause it used to be that you uploaded your syllabus. Yes.
And now we're NO longer doing that because we're actually building your
syllabus from what you upload in Kim. And so that's that's the issue we
wanna, and i'm glad Rob and Lynn thought to reach out to us so we will
meet Friday and get that settled.
210 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:01:08.730 --> 01:01:28.730
And we have about depending on the syllabus or depending on the proposal
depending on the type of proposal it is, there's anywhere from nine to
twelve different points we look at and criteria and not all, but most of
them require that we look at the syllabus as well. So what we need is we
need to know how we deal with that and are we going to just ignore the.
211 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:01:28.730 --> 01:01:52.410
Things that are not on the syllabus or the on the syllabus because we
don't have access to it. So we'll, we'll hash all that out friday. And
then we'll get back to normal. Work in 27 h a day. All right. And lastly,
UGCC will communicate new criteria to faculty and to those in the Kim
review process really once we know it. So, and the hope is we can be able
to start that process on Friday.
212 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:01:52.410 --> 01:02:12.410
When you do that, can you do a deadline for or when it needs to be at
your Yeah we've been talking about that and I wanna kind of wait, but we
I think this is something Lynn and I will talk about. We really think
that if you want to be assured, this is right now in it. Lynn is gonna
beat me about the head.
213 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:02:12.410 --> 01:02:32.410
The shoulders for saying this because this is all internal, but we're
kind of at a point where we think you've got to get it to us by 31
December. Now we might, I I will work on them over the break just to look
at them. But if they're in the queue and we come back, we can almost
guarantee that they're gonna be pushed through. But I think the college
curriculum committees really appreciate the deadline.
214 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:02:32.410 --> 01:02:52.410
Because then they can say, look, we need Oh wait wait, you're talking
about yourself? Yeah, NO deadlines. I'm saying if we know when you need
it. Well, we know when you need it, then we can push deadlines back down
to, to the colleges to help everybody are you, you're on that committee,
right? No, ok. Well, I wouldn't I guess I'm gonna have to.
215 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:02:52.410 --> 01:03:19.860
Talk to the person who's on that committee. If they have a program that
really needs something done, they can always just contact Lynn or me and
we can make sure it gets done. Yeah. So we can always, you know, move
things around to because we don't want to stop other committees from
doing their work. So. I just mean they need to get theirs done by a day.
Alright, i'll let I'll let Lynn know we have to give you guys or give a
program committee a deadline so they know. So I just got a related
question.
216 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:03:19.860 --> 01:03:39.860
Right now in Cam cause I just submitted some stuff today. It does require
in addition to filling out all the requirement, it does require an
attached full syllabus, which of course we can generate a simple
syllabus, but so when you think about criteria, I understand what you say
the crea the criteria is what the state.
217 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:03:39.860 --> 01:04:00.110
Is requiring us to have and try to capture the other information, the
question being what the committee gets to see. But if we're filling out
Kim and those requirements are in Kim and we're adding a syllabus, which
has the other information, are we not always already providing the
committee the information? I need to go back to Kathy. I think.
218 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:04:00.110 --> 01:04:30.560
Thought we removed that link, because, so the link is still there to
upload. I just submitted 16 of my courses to have the sols put into Kim,
which is another problem, by the way, because if I have 16, you can
multiply that time yeah and I noticed that it did still require all the
typical boxes to be checked and attached the syllabus. Okay. Right it
didn't let you move it forward without the syllabus being. It still has
all of the holding.
219 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:04:30.560 --> 01:04:59.720
Warnings in there that you're checking all the boxes and everything. If
it's just these are these are all course modifications simply to put the
sols in Kim so they then populate starting next fall into simple
syllabus. Yeah. Okay, thank you. Is there anything else on curriculum at
this early point? That's all. Thank you very much to the curriculum
committee for starting their work so.
220 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:04:59.720 --> 01:05:19.720
And being on top of that because one of the highlights from this is that
when things change in Kim, everybody needs to know about it in the
workflow. Anybody that's touched by it needs to know about it and that
was sort of the upshot of all of that discussion. And I think the promos
office will take that very seriously from.
221 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:05:19.720 --> 01:05:52.970
VI. Old Business:
President Heberle: Okay, so we're moving to old business. We have
Bill mccury who is coming on virtually. Hello Bill, are you here? On the
template to do it because I would have. I think I asked him to be here.
Can't see the.
222 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:05:52.970 --> 01:06:16.290
Yeah, I'm sorry do you want me too scared.
223 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:06:16.290 --> 01:06:35.910
Let's just see what's up with mr. McCurry. This is in response to a
question that was asked just after the meeting about access to copilot
why faculty are paying for it, but we also thought it might be a good
idea just to get Bill here to answer any other questions, updates about
IT. Yeah.
224 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:06:35.910 --> 01:06:55.560
He's he's dr. mccurrie. Dr. mccurrie I'm sorry responded yet, so. Okay.
Yeah, if, if it's ok according to our rules to switch up agenda items.
225 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:06:55.560 --> 01:07:15.560
Old business unit business? I know that we do that. So, I just want to
comment on the chat, so in the conversation about syllabus upload, Amon
said that he thought the wording was you need to upload the materials and
the scheduled topics. So those are items.
226 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:07:15.560 --> 01:07:47.030
It's from the soulbye that the chemiculum committee still needs and so
I'm gonna check with Kathy to make sure we have the right link on that
link. And in response to Jay, we voted on this last spring, so it would
take an entirely new effort to read to go back to the transcripted
minutes so that's not on the agenda for now, but I'll bring it to FSEC in
case we do want to revisit. We did.
227 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:07:47.030 --> 01:08:00.147
That this year we would be looking at satisfaction with the new minute
tinging policies. So we will definitely take that into account and thank
you, thank you for the note and your feedback on that.
228 "Compora, Daniel Patrick" (1654811648)
01:08:00.147 --> 01:08:18.600
Senator Compora: Okay yes, Dan Campora from what are we called now?
Judith of college. I was not on the agenda, but James Overlander had
asked me to give a brief report from the academic reg regulations
committee.
229 "Compora, Daniel Patrick" (1654811648)
01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:38.600
Okay, of course. So we had a request come in with a very short time to
respond, but the committee did review it and it was a dealing with organ
reorganization, and so we.
230 "Compora, Daniel Patrick" (1654811648)
01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:42.990
Had raised a couple issues, but they were more procedural than.
231 "Compora, Daniel Patrick" (1654811648)
01:08:43.000 --> 01:09:03.000
Anything. So we supported having the reorganization policy, but I think
Senate should ensure a few points are clear. 1st, we should clearly
define what counts as a reorganization and distingui distinguish it from
a curricular or program change. Second, the faculty consultation process
should be trans.
232 "Compora, Daniel Patrick" (1654811648)
01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:19.346
Parent and consistently documented. Finally, when faculty input differs
from administrative recommendation, the policy should explain how the
difference is reported. Other than those clarifications, the committee.
233 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:09:20.405 --> 01:09:29.466
We lost you, you probably can't hear you.
234 "Semaan, Gaby" (2103894016)
01:09:29.466 --> 01:09:32.845
Not just in their own.
235 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:09:32.845 --> 01:09:48.070
Okay his muted by mistake? Is he still muted? Yeah. Not as Gabby, yeah.
He's of the dog. Yeah, let me see. Oh, NO, he's still muted.
236 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:09:48.070 --> 01:10:09.840
But I will ask Dan to do is, as part of our, when we send minutes, we're
also sending attached presentations like the promos, notes if he has a
presentation that you would like to attach to the minutes, the UGCC
presentation will be attached to the minutes and we will.
237 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:26.110
We'll ask Dan to send forward the policies and what the committee has
recommended with the minutes so that all senators can review those and
offer any public comments on the comment page, policy comment page that
they see fit.
238 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:10:26.110 --> 01:10:41.770
This I think did come to the faculty Senate executive committee in the
summertime. So the program committee had a short time to review it, but
we did have other booking longer. Yep.
239 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:10:41.770 --> 01:10:59.950
So build this microphone failure. Okay. Did you hear what I said Dan,
about communicating this with Senate through the minutes when we send
them out? Okay.
240 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:10:59.950 --> 01:11:17.230
Do we have dr. mccury yet? He just responded. He said he told you he'd be
here at 05:15 05:15. So I'm asking him if he Thank you. No, it's ok. We
can do it at 05:15 that's what I said, and Sharon can do the round table
work for you.
241 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:11:17.230 --> 01:11:37.230
VII. New Business:
Senator Barnes: I attended the rocket round table. For those of you
who don't know, it's like a problem solving. We have like a triage
situation or students are complaining or faculty or staff are concerned
about something and it's a place of sort of interdisciplinary team. This
was the 1st time I had attended the meeting.
242 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:11:37.230 --> 01:11:57.230
Two issues that I thought folks would be find interesting emerged and one
was the exception, the exception to the housing policy, and please
correct me if I I don't have it right, but it seems like if you live
outside of a 25 mi radius.
243 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:11:57.230 --> 01:12:17.940
That's right. You, you have to be on, you have to be a2a resident on
campus for two years. And there there's a an exception policy and so the
discussion was, is, is this working, what are, what are the grounds for
exceptions? How are we negotiating those exceptions?
244 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:12:17.940 --> 01:12:37.940
And do we need to look at it more? We already reviewed the policy or
we're going out so he just sent me the revised ones so I'll be he
uploaded it into our folder so we can look at it. Okay. So that and
what's the concern that we're, why did that make it to the.
245 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:12:37.940 --> 01:12:56.530
Roundtables. I was in class for the day. Several folks seem to think that
because of that being so stringent, it used to be 50 mi in one year that
we are losing enrollments but it's hard to.
246 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:12:56.530 --> 01:13:16.530
Get data on who doesn't come because of housing because you don't know
that that group of folks. So, the question was, have we benchmarked other
institutions across the state? Is, do they have 50 mi radius? Do they
have 25 mi? And do they have a two year requirement?
247 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:13:16.530 --> 01:13:45.749
And, it looks like we are the only one that has both that we require two
years and a 25 mi. So, yeah. So we're trying to decide if we need to
change that policy. Thank you. Sure. Sure. And then the other one and
that was especially interesting I think to faculty was you know this
because you've experienced this students being dropped from their
courses.
248 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:13:45.749 --> 01:14:07.469
For non payment of tuition and the students who are going to get
reinstated sometimes lose their seat and the process of getting all the
signatures can get onerous, and so the request was for those students
specifically.
249 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:14:07.469 --> 01:14:25.929
Not for any student, but for the students who are dropped for non
payment, would the faculty be interested in or willing to waive the
faculty signature requirement and allow advisors to sign students back in
so that this process could go more quickly?
250 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:14:25.929 --> 01:14:45.929
I, my tendency is to think that students at least I, not to out myself,
but I would tell the student to keep coming if they're gonna work it out,
I would just tell them to keep coming, but I think if they just don't
know to do that, they would stop coming. And my concern was if we
continue to sign students in, in the meanwhile.
251 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:14:45.929 --> 01:15:05.929
We're signing in over the captain and are is there room in the room, all
that stuff. So that, so it seems like what we could do is say just for
those students who are dropped and maybe there's a way to kind of monitor
whatever. We would still follow up with the instructor if it wasn't cap,
so we would never go over the cap, so yeah.
252 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:15:05.929 --> 01:15:25.929
And I do want to point out that these were students who were once
enrolled in a class. Yeah. So this wasn't a student. But you would be
signing them back in and sometimes in the meanwhile, you might have
signed other people in. That was the question that I had about it. And I
I felt like what I heard was we'll do everything we can to make sure that
it's you know.
253 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:15:25.929 --> 01:15:45.929
What we're trying to do is get the student back in the classroom before
they miss a bunch of classes and that folks think that this will help do
it. Comment or question tomorrow? Yeah, I have a question. Why don't we
have a situation why there's a student that is flagged but it's still in
the process of trying to repair it, getting an email that's saying,
please continue to.
254 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:15:45.929 --> 01:16:05.929
In the class with the hope that everything will be over and then you
don't lose any information. Why we don't actually actively telling them
do not, you know, you don't because whatever, but people still be
auditing the class, yeah? What I understood is there's a lot of outreach
to the students prior to the drop.
255 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:16:05.929 --> 01:16:25.929
But I don't know that that particular message was something that folks
would want people to send. I don't know about that one. Do you want to
comment on it? Yeah, we could ask about doing that. I don't think that's
a issue if usually the communication goes out through financial aid, but
advisors.
256 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:16:25.929 --> 01:16:49.559
You could certainly send an email to those students and make that
statement to them so that they are aware. Okay advisor may not even know.
Whoever send them, you need to drop because you don't pay, please, as you
are planning to work continue to audit the class. It should be in the
same time. So there'll be NO delay and the student will lose some
important classes. I think, I think one of the.
257 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:16:49.559 --> 01:17:17.999
The things that surprised me is and I didn't bring it with me, but the
data about who has dropped for non payment included from my perspective,
a large number of students who had more than 90 credit hours. And to me,
I was telling the story to the roundtable my senior year undergrad a
hundred years ago, I couldn't pay my tuition and they said oh just pay it
with your 1st paycheck in the summer, you know, different attitude about
about.
258 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:17:17.999 --> 01:17:52.289
How to pay, but I think when you get a student who's up to 90 credit
hours, there maybe a different, if I don't know if it's possible, but
there maybe a different way to respond to that student who's short and I
think short versus zero payment is all, could also be treated
differently. And I know there is a payment plan, so I I think that
factored in and it, I think there was, there was conversation about the
round at the round table about do people know about the payment plan?
There's a charge attached to the payment plan, but I think.
259 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:17:52.289 --> 01:18:12.289
If you're, if you're 90 credit hours in and you're a $5000 even sure
you're gonna work hard to figure out how to get that money and the
payment plan would be an extremely great option if I don't know if they
know about it or not. So I think that's something else we could pursue
with with financially through this.
260 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:18:12.289 --> 01:18:32.289
Yeah, I know that Sabrina was taking some notes because the student that
sat on the committee mentioned Clara, which is like a pay as you go and
she felt like that would, the student felt that that would be much easier
for students than the current way that we do the payment plans, so I know
Sabrina was taking notes.
261 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:18:32.289 --> 01:18:51.887
Notes on that, so hopefully that's something that we can look into. I
don't know if we'd be able to do it, but something that we can at least
explore. Yeah, and there was I think a lot of really deeply concerned,
just good conversation at the round table about how to address this so
that I thought was great. Any, any questions online?
262 "Benton, Sheri" (363943680)
01:18:51.887 --> 01:19:08.489
Yeah, this is Sherry Betton I have one? Yeah. So, this happens in the
composition. I teach composition and we frequently run into this
situation if you I've gotten email, I always get emails. Some of them
come as late as week four, I just had to.
263 "Benton, Sheri" (363943680)
01:19:08.489 --> 01:19:35.369
Two last week, e.g.. So my question is, is how long does it usually, I'm
not saying students are exaggerating necessarily. I I truly do not know
how long it takes once a student is dropped from a class, how long it
takes for it to be addressed financially. And I don't think it's always
students who were previously in my class. I think by week three or four
they're looking for any open seat, right?
264 "Benton, Sheri" (363943680)
01:19:35.369 --> 01:19:52.899
Because we don't enroll over cap. So does anyone have any idea as to the
length of time it typically takes for a financial situation to be
remedied and how long would we hold that seat for the student before
then? Because then what will happen, right, is if you get.
265 "Benton, Sheri" (363943680)
01:19:52.899 --> 01:20:12.899
To exaggerate two or three students in a class who are not paying and
then by week four or five, they have not resolved that issue and then
they are then what withdrawn from the class and then now we are under
cap, which I know there's a big concern about cap sizes so and filling
classes and so I'm wondering how.
266 "Benton, Sheri" (363943680)
01:20:12.899 --> 01:20:17.525
That affects scheduling and all the things.
267 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:20:17.525 --> 01:20:35.709
I don't know the answer, but I certainly, I don't know if you do, but I
think it really depends on it's each individual student when they can
actually make a payment, but I do know that the outreach begins right
away, so it could just be that there are particular students that can't
come up with the funding to pay.
268 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:20:35.709 --> 01:20:55.709
And it takes them a while, sort of like your summer paycheck example, so
they maybe waiting for some funds to be able to make a payment. I also
want to add short comment about, to Sherry's comment about cap sizes.
Once the add drop deadline passes and a student is in your class and then
withdraws, that student is still.
269 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:20:55.709 --> 01:21:21.479
Considered to be enrolled in the class, the grade is essentially just a
withdrawal at that point. So it's not like your class is considered to
have one less student. Yeah. Yeah. And I think too, when we add students
solely, if they weren't in there originally, it's hard to service to them
in terms of their ability to catch up and do that. Yeah. Especially
especially of dealing with financial.
270 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:21:21.479 --> 01:21:37.569
And I do think there are certain, there's two different populations, so I
do think that enrollment tries to still enroll folks up through census or
up through census or add drop period.
271 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:21:37.569 --> 01:21:54.759
That would be different students than the students who were dropped for
non payment. So there's two different groups that could be potentially
adding up in those two weeks. So just to recap both, what's being asked
of us is to consider waiving the signature.
272 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:21:54.759 --> 01:22:14.759
The required faculty signature in this, just for this population so that
they can hopefully get reenrolled more quickly and I don't know if unless
the cab has been hit, which then they would be then they would reach out
to the infrastructure yet. And I don't think this is something I I'm not
the parliamentarian, but I do.
273 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:22:14.759 --> 01:22:32.739
I think we probably have to wait at least a meeting to to vote on this.
So the concern is that if, if the students keep auditing and was in the
class, then I have NO problem. But if the student got scared, you know
the class was two or three critical classes.
274 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:22:32.739 --> 01:22:50.529
And now you're going to add him then we have a problem. Depending on the
class, some classes you need to be every time otherwise after two, three
times you lost a lot of information. That's really I think it's important
to recommend and do not keep participating in the class, listen so you
could follow up. Then I will have less of a problem. But if you are going
to take a student.
275 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:22:50.529 --> 01:23:10.529
He's not the three classes, he lost a lot of material in the beginning,
very fundamental for the whole class. Well remember we do have the
dropout period where students may not show up until what the 3rd week in
the class, right? They can still 2nd week, right? So they maybe losing
those 1st, I have several students often who admit the 1st three.
276 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:23:10.529 --> 01:23:38.482
You have to sign them in after the 1st week. Yes yes. So yes, that's
true. And the other to your point Sharon about you know pilementary
procedures, I believe this is encoded in policy so it would probably
require a policy modification that then we would have to circulate for
input, so thanks I will look into that. Thank you. So this will be coming
to academic regulations. Great. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you for that.
277 "Benton, Sheri" (363943680)
01:23:38.482 --> 01:24:08.109
One more thing, folks, if I could, so thank you Scott for the reminder
about the W, which is, but so if we're saying that a student, and I'm not
opposing this, I just want to add some details for like just clarify some
details. So if students potentially could get into a class without
faculty signature, which is the end of week two, then that means they
might potentially unless for some reason they choose to continue to show
up and I don't know how that would look, but then.
278 "Benton, Sheri" (363943680)
01:24:08.109 --> 01:24:27.926
That potentially interferes if they don't show up till week three with
the attendance tracking and deadlines and following up on all that. So I
think that is also something I'm not, like I said, I had a student add
week three and they had to reopen the attendance tracker for that one
student, so that's a potential.
279 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:24:27.926 --> 01:24:44.289
Oh, that does happen yes unfortunately. Yes. So you'll we have faculty
reached out a lot that will say, well, I completed it and then somebody
added and they have to be explained that you gotta go back in and.
280 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:24:44.289 --> 01:24:59.979
Have it reopened and that is a problem. I don't know. Financially follows
up. They do ask you to fill out, you know, the attendance tracker if
you're missing students and so, yeah, we, we can make sure that they're
continuing that process.
281 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:24:59.979 --> 01:25:19.979
Other questions or concerns? Thank you Sherry. Those were excellent
points to follow up with in creating this policy. Okay, and on the chat,
Moisa is saying financial aid responds quite quickly and senator J is
saying, is it asking, is it a good idea to continue taking attendance
until the end?
282 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:25:19.979 --> 01:25:40.042
End of class. Every faculty member has an Well there's a university
attendance policy and then some people have very strict attendance
policies like myself and I take attendance every day until the end of
class. Do you go down the road you say boom. I go.
283 "Ahalapitiya Jayatissa" (884127488)
01:25:40.042 --> 01:25:45.741
So 15.
284 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:25:45.741 --> 01:25:47.826
We're gonna move to 2nd.
285 "Ahalapitiya Jayatissa" (884127488)
01:25:47.826 --> 01:26:12.730
But I want to I'm sorry to disturb you, but I want a university create a
policy that all the students must participate certain percentage of
classes without this recommendation, we cannot.
286 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:26:12.730 --> 01:26:42.708
So the withdrawal policies are about that one is specifically tied to
financial yeah the attendance. And we need to do that by the census, but
I think what dr. J Tisa is talking about is after that throughout the
semester, and that ultimately is up to individual faculty how they want
to set attendance policies and grading for their classes. We do not
dictate that. Nor should you say Boom.
287 "Ahalapitiya Jayatissa" (884127488)
01:26:42.708 --> 01:26:45.229
But I'm still asking.
288 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:26:45.229 --> 01:26:57.579
VII. New Business cont’d: Thank you so much for coming in
person. We're gonna do one more, I think brief item of business, and I'm
so sorry about the time mix up. I thought I said five but.
289 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:26:57.579 --> 01:27:17.579
Okay, so just more consideration again suspending from this is coming
from the FAC FSEC, it's not necessarily a motion at this point, not sure
it needs to be a motioned for consideration to suspend the evaluations of
deems as scheduled in our bylaws every two years.
290 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:27:17.579 --> 01:27:40.209
In the years that the provost evaluating deans for renewal every five
years. So in our bylaws it says that we evaluate deans every two years.
We now have a probos office that is evaluating deans for renewal every
five years per dean.
291 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:27:40.209 --> 01:27:57.429
The question came up in our meetings with the pro boast whether or not it
makes sense to ask faculty to do both in one year. The pro boast
evaluation and which includes a survey of the faculty.
292 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:27:57.429 --> 01:28:12.549
And the Senate survey of faculty. So we can bring this back because
there's not a huge rush, but this is for consideration on the part of.
293 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:28:12.549 --> 01:28:32.549
Our of Senate to try to think about whether or not we want to do these
overlapping surveys in one year on the years that the Provos office is
doing their up and down review of deeds. So FSAC will be discussing this
a bit more.
294 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:28:32.549 --> 01:28:54.969
We do have a copy of the POS and I don't know what that stands for SOP.
Standard operating procedure. Office that we can send out out with the
minutes as an attachment.
295 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:28:54.969 --> 01:29:14.969
Before you review as we consider this because those evaluations are
important the senate evaluations are important, but we've been discussing
whether or not there's just so much overlap in those years. So we would
continue, e.g., this year we would continue with a senate evaluation of
JH case and suspend an evaluation of libraries and pharmacy.
296 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:29:14.969 --> 01:29:39.779
I think we're the two overlapping ones. So that's an example of what
would happen, ok? So for your consideration.
VII. Circle Back to Old Business: So, we now have dr. McCurry
with us and you can either settle yourself. Their sound is really good in
here, but I don't think they'd be able to see you. If we have an IT
problem, we know who to call.
297 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:29:39.779 --> 01:29:59.779
So what the way we set this up with dr. mccurriey was that he would be in
attendance to answer any questions that have come up this semester or in
the past about IT access. At the end of last meeting, a senator raised a
question about access to copilot, so we might start with that.
298 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:29:59.779 --> 01:30:06.940
He's already on the floor with the senator who brought that question to
the floor like Tomita, are you here?
299 "Sharmeta Gibbon" (24570880)
01:30:06.940 --> 01:30:39.099
I'm here. Yeah, hi everybody. I just wanted to bring up because I'm the
School of nursing, when we heard that the subscription would come to an
end at the beginning of false semester and then if you wanted to keep it,
then it would be on you to pay out of pocket, you know, or upset by that
and I'm sure that's just not nursing, that's probably across the whole
campus. So we just kind of wanted to know was there any possibility that
that could be rescended or are we looking at?
300 "Sharmeta Gibbon" (24570880)
01:30:39.099 --> 01:30:58.419
Maybe, helping faculty out so that we wouldn't have to pay that hundred
dollars out of our own pocket for coal pilot because we were also told
that that was the preferred AI tool that we used for the university. So
paying a hundred dollars if that's the preferred tool that we're supposed
to use.
301 "Sharmeta Gibbon" (24570880)
01:30:58.419 --> 01:31:23.027
You know, kinda seems a little expensive and then unfair if that's what
you want to see then we're told that we have to pay for it. So I'm, you
know, just bringing this forward because, you know, it's a concern and
it's a tool that is helpful to help us do our our task or work, but, you
know, that's kind of a hefty fee. So that's all I had to say about it.
302 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:31:23.027 --> 01:31:36.579
Okay, I will address that. So our preferred model would be everybody
knows there's the free version that's belled into windows. Like that's
comes on the desktop and the preferred model.
303 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:31:36.579 --> 01:31:56.579
And by the way, just some of you know this or something you don't. AI is
my personal research area, so I'm highly attached to this topic and more
than welcome to say more about I'm more than happy to come and ask. Okay,
thank you. I just can't.
304 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:31:56.579 --> 01:32:17.679
Travel at the speed of light together is coming from another place and
going back to my office afterwards, so I know where to go but just so
basically my preference would have been builded into the into the normal
budget process. It is an incremental cost. Although we were fortunate
enough.
305 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:32:17.679 --> 01:32:37.329
To be desperated as a frontier AI school by Microsoft as like Ohio State
and in case Western now, but those only three in the state of ohio. And
so we got a exceptional price for, for this versus let's say the normal
purchase price of retail.
306 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:32:37.329 --> 01:32:57.039
My 1st foray though since it was new and I think our plan will be if
we've got good take up and look like we're getting it, we would build it
into the budget for next year, not really a charge, but we treated it
kind of like Vizio and project. Those are treated as not everybody gets
themselves.
307 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:32:57.039 --> 01:33:12.399
We don't put them on every desktop and so forth, so that's why that was
the logic. My preference is this is gonna be something for all of us.
It's gonna be a natural tool. And I let me jump to the preferred tool.
Actually what?
308 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:33:12.399 --> 01:33:30.249
This is sort of related to the Microsoft security. The platform, the
security platform in Microsoft, the only way that you can get into your
internal files as we put the last layer in is through the connector
inside of this tool. So it's not like a rule or it's our only mechanism
technically.
309 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:33:30.249 --> 01:33:46.389
So for people who wanted to get to their internal files, which all of us
are probably doing, that's why it's preferred It's our only real choice.
And I should probably go back to, under the Provos leadership initially.
310 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:33:46.389 --> 01:34:06.389
From Scott what he was interim and then show we had a technology, we had
actually an AIT group. There was six seven teams, sub team, I had a, I
led the technology sub team which was a mix of faculty, people from my
team, staff, it was broadly represented. We're trying.
311 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:34:06.389 --> 01:34:26.439
To figure out what should our game plan be? And we came up with sort of
three buckets which by the way, the industry seems to have adopted these
buckets and I'm more than happy to leave materials about this subject but
the type one bucket was chat GPT.
312 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:34:26.439 --> 01:34:46.439
Gemini or whatever people like those. As long as people are operating
kind of outside the university data, we determine, hey, let them add it
and if there's a digging into a security issue, we'll have to deal with
it. But by and large, we didn't feel that it was appropriate to try to
create standards limitations for people who wanted to work.
313 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:34:46.439 --> 01:35:07.179
Outside of the university data. We came up with bucket two, which is a
whole lot of AI components that are dropping into our applications like
Epic. Epic's got now over a hundred of these little components. They're
coming in and we didn't ask for them, they're just showing up and we can
enable them.
314 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:35:07.179 --> 01:35:24.639
But that's basically happening because the whole world's, all these
software companies are being asked, what is your AI stuff? So they're
producing AI stuff. The has got about 20 right now. There's things around
enrollment. There are things around financial aid that they've developed.
315 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:35:24.639 --> 01:35:44.639
We haven't deployed any of those yet, but those are gonna be available.
And then we came up with this type three or bucket three was things that
you would build on your own. I mean things where we would actually build
our own agents and we would actually put them into our environment. By
the way, this was all reviewed.
316 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:35:44.639 --> 01:36:05.079
Internally with the whole team. That bucket was more complicated than we
had a lot of help. We looked at outside approaches. We had Gardener
assistance. We looked at what Educay's was saying and we concluded that
there were really only two options for platforms like that one was
Google.
317 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:36:05.079 --> 01:36:23.139
Ones Microsoft and we're not in a very good position to manage Google
right now, so we said we'll use Microsoft and watch Google. The others
really aren't platforms at the moment, sophic or cloud isn't like whole
stack of things. It's a group of things, but not like Microsoft and
Google.
318 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:36:23.139 --> 01:36:43.139
So in that environment, we have lots of we have a scount works dr.
mckinney's been there to meet with us. We have about 40 different things
we're actually trying out what it's like to build these things and make
them work and not get loose.
319 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:36:43.139 --> 01:36:59.859
Before we actually do anything, right? And we have a lot of help since
we're a frontier school for Microsoft. They have eight engineers from the
product team which has been very great for us and out of that we also
have a student AI ambassador program.
320 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:36:59.859 --> 01:37:17.979
Which even dr. video will be joining us for lunch and follow up and
meeting the students there. The student ambassadors are gonna be assigned
to working to arrive in different parts of the university and help
people. They went through eight weeks of training by Microsoft, which is
pretty cool and.
321 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:37:17.979 --> 01:37:36.819
They've been presenting us what they know, very impressive. There's
probably a way to weave this because we're gonna keep doing cohorts of
this. There's probably a way to weave this into the academic programs and
I have talked about that a little bit. But then, you know, that's really
where we're at, and so we didn't.
322 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:37:36.819 --> 01:37:54.729
The thing about the Microsoft platform, Microsoft actually doesn't have
its own model, so it's ignostic. Microsoft doesn't have a large language
model like cloud or doesn't have like or OpenAI. Google actually has its
own model. They were the 1st, believe it or not.
323 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:37:54.729 --> 01:38:10.959
This group and so Microsoft Pilot is not like the large languages. Yeah,
you can just choose I want to use or I want to use cloud. So you pick
your model. Right, it's all it is is a framework.
324 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:38:10.959 --> 01:38:30.369
And you can get and we can get additional things in there. We just have
the base deployed that we can, when you are able to get other additional
things for researchers and then so we did the finance office said there's
about 300 people who are purchasing on P cards are purchasing either.
325 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:38:30.369 --> 01:38:50.369
A dropping or open AI or or google. And some are spending a hundred a
month, so, I mean that's on P cards not individually that could be even
our better than and and I'm glad you raised that cause I wanna get back
to something that dr. Gibbon asked about or mentioned.
326 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:38:50.369 --> 01:39:10.369
Been saying they were told that they would have to pay out of their own
pocket. I don't think that's possible, I think to pay for it it has to
come from a university index. Yeah, that's, we can't take money out of
your own pocket and pay for them. We would offer it if that was something
if we had a need like that's yeah I wouldn't want to see that.
327 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:39:10.369 --> 01:39:33.065
Again my goal is to have this just be part of the platform, but I
couldn't do it this year. We couldn't do it. I just want to briefly
briefly go back to Sharmita and see if this is making sense to you so far
as to the way in which you experienced this at the end of spring last
year and how you're experiencing access right now.
328 "Sharmeta Gibbon" (24570880)
01:39:33.065 --> 01:39:50.399
Not at all. Because when we had our initial meeting at the beginning of
this semester, basically we kind of lost access, which I think most
people probably have, and we were told in our 1st meeting of the year.
329 "Sharmeta Gibbon" (24570880)
01:39:50.399 --> 01:40:08.883
That we had to pay for it if we wish to continue to use it. So that's
what over at the College of Health and Human Services, which obviously,
you know, kind of caused a little bit of an upward because it's a hundred
dollars. Again, I mean yes, that's not a whole lot of money, but again,
people don't want to pay for that if, you know.
330 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:40:08.883 --> 01:40:26.163
Sorry to interrupt. Sorry to interrupt sorry when you said that we were
told we had to pay for it. Does that mean that the faculty were told as
individuals they had to pay for it or did the college say we as the
college have to pay for it for you to use it?
331 "Sharmeta Gibbon" (24570880)
01:40:26.163 --> 01:40:33.047
We as individuals, if we wish to continue to use it had to pay for on our
own. That's what we were told.
332 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:40:33.047 --> 01:40:53.429
That was, I was at the services and I It nobody said that the college was
paying for it. It was that we would have to pay for it. I don't know who
the maybe the weed was meant to be the. Yeah.
333 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:40:53.429 --> 01:41:08.359
Yeah, you couldn't pay for it out of your own pocket. Yeah. Okay. But
yeah, it was not implied that it would just, if we just tell somebody we
like to use it and then someone else would pay for it. Right. Yeah.
334 "Insch, Gary" (1995654912)
01:41:08.359 --> 01:41:10.985
Renee, this is Gary inch. Renee.
335 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:41:10.985 --> 01:41:12.423
Yes.
336 "Insch, Gary" (1995654912)
01:41:12.423 --> 01:41:17.349
There was actually an email that went out. That's how I learned about it.
337 "Insch, Gary" (1995654912)
01:41:17.349 --> 01:41:33.061
When they when they said we're gonna get it for free for the semester and
then they said at the end of the semester, do you want to continue it's a
hundred dollars. Because I haven't talked to anybody, our college hasn't
talked about it, but I remember that cause it was an email that went out
at the I think it was probably last May.
338 "Sharmeta Gibbon" (24570880)
01:41:33.061 --> 01:41:35.663
Yeah. Yes, that's true. There is an email. Yeah.
339 "Insch, Gary" (1995654912)
01:41:35.663 --> 01:41:49.461
So that's, that's where the information came from originally, and then
now it's, you know, so when someone's saying you have to do it, it came
from the administration through an email when they said that our free was
gonna run out and then if you wanted to continue to pay for it yourself.
340 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:41:49.461 --> 01:41:53.523
Did you want to add to that or a new question?
341 "Semaan, Gaby" (2103894016)
01:41:53.523 --> 01:42:15.068
Yeah, I just want to confirm what Gary has just mentioned. We did as well
receive an email saying if we want to continue receiving it. It was
sometime at the beginning of this semester as well, I believe. And it
didn't say administration or us, it said you have to buy it. Yeah.
342 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:42:15.068 --> 01:42:28.599
Oh, we threw it out for about 90 days, right? We installed it, it was put
it out into the universe. And we actually had, we put out a.
343 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:42:28.599 --> 01:42:45.489
3000 to to various people asking like the colleges, you know, who would
make sense and we put it out there and it was in the notification I
thought I thought I remember saying that at at the end of August when
September one we would.
344 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:42:45.489 --> 01:43:05.489
Make it a purchase for the year. I know it was a hundred dollars, which
is obviously cheaper than the street price, the retail price for these
things. You're hearing two different things. One is you can't pay for it
out of pocket and second is that that's what I'm confused. So our email
says as the university has transitioned to a pay subscription for copilot
the depart.
345 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:43:05.489 --> 01:43:30.159
Department can offer the following options for approving co pilot
subscription requests through the department operational account for
reimbursement. One an index, two index to the faculty members startup
funds with an account index sent to the chair's office, a foundation
account, the account index sent to the chair's office or a check made out
to the University of Pleado given to the chair's office.
346 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:48.849
If you haven't submitted, yeah. So but I would have taken that to be that
I need to write the check because I don't have a startup funds and I
didn't think that my foundation account being not mine, so.
347 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:43:48.849 --> 01:44:07.329
Andrew in the back? Just speaking as a chair, I was asked about this, you
know, we've been, we've been working on our, on our budget. We didn't
have co palette in our budget, we have a big department, so I said the
department would not be, would not be covering it. I I'm guessing that
most chairs did the same.
348 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:44:07.329 --> 01:44:26.829
And that individual check, that check that option means an individual
could write a check. No faculty, NO faculty were sufficiently interested
to want to pay for it themselves, so we didn't get that far.
349 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:44:26.829 --> 01:44:46.829
Yeah, once it was established that the department would not be covering
it, that was kind of the. But I'm asking administrators in the so it
sounded like some departments set up a mechanism where if you write a
check, it can be deposited into a university index. You can set up set up
a special index for that. And then.
350 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:44:46.829 --> 01:45:06.219
And the departments would give you the co pilot subscription out of that
index. Well somebody's NO longer involving cloud. Okay, so does your
comment about we're seeing how that how much uptake there is this year of
this.
351 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:45:06.219 --> 01:45:22.029
Option to write a check or take startup funds or have a college index pay
for it. If a whole lot of folks do that, then next year it would be
budgeted and individuals would not be paying for it. Because it made
sense and.
352 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:45:22.029 --> 01:45:40.509
This department is a big consumer, we're over a thousand people who are
using index to pay. And then of course it's offered to the students out
of because the students buy this stuff on their own and for them to go to
best Buy, any of these things are materially more than a hundred dollars
a year. Yeah.
353 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:45:40.509 --> 01:46:00.509
So it's big saving for the students. We don't have a way to give them
least unless we decide we're gonna give that kind of thing to students at
the moment we we haven't done that kind of thing, but the idea was that
we would, if we got uptake, we would put this just like the the things in
there are not the frequent. It would be part of the environment as part
of.
354 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:46:00.509 --> 01:46:17.319
So potentially next fall this could be free to faculty and embedded in
the systems we already use. Yes, and it sounds like even if we could kind
of unwind if there's confusing about the timing, and I want you to so
it's not gonna do any good to say, ok, we'll go to the semester.
355 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:46:17.319 --> 01:46:35.589
And then in January paid $50 or whatever, that's not gonna help anybody.
So this is clarity on the security. Does IT have any security issues with
individual faculty and staff purchasing their own license for co pilot?
356 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:46:35.589 --> 01:46:55.589
I think you referred earlier, there's some issues if that's drawing off
university folders files. Is there a security access that we're concerned
about? By having individuals having their own purchasing their own
license for Copa. Their own license won't get through the the security
layer I talked about. We're actually putting it in right now. It will,
you can buy it.
357 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:46:55.589 --> 01:47:15.900
But it on your personal computer, obviously not either and do all the
nice things you would, but you won't get through the the pipe. And to
folks who are purchasing this individually with the thought that they
could continue to use it in the workplaces they have, have they been
aware of that security limitation?
358 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:47:15.900 --> 01:47:44.470
Get a place on their ability to use it other than the communication we
had when we offered this Dubai that said this is the only way you're
gonna get to your files. Thank you. Follow up questions. I have a follow
up question, our department has a subscription to and we use it in our
offices, so with that new security layer won't be we won't be able to do
this won't get any files, right? You can use it either on the internet.
You want to do a personal search or whatever.
359 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:47:44.470 --> 01:48:04.470
So it won't be able to access your internal file says. Okay, ok. That's
what's gonna happen. Okay. I want to clarify some things from the chat.
So dr. Prior says her chair didn't cover she used a link for individual
purchase. She was disappointed generally to be in the pilot group and
have an expense put on her this year.
360 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:48:04.470 --> 01:48:23.230
To have to purchase a bit. I'm gonna continue with dr. Prior for a minute
Dan, what is, and then she says, what is the status of the AI? Oh, I'm
sorry, so I So I'm gonna go to the something to try to keep organized. So
I purchased something I cannot use.
361 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:48:23.230 --> 01:48:43.230
So if those questions from dr. Prior could be responded to, she thinks
that she purchased something that she can't use, but it looks like what
happened if you wrote a check, it was put in an index and you can use it
because it's part of the system. Again, just to clarify, if you purchase
your own non copilot.
362 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:48:43.230 --> 01:49:03.900
The version of AI. You can use it but it will only allow you to access
files on the internet outside of the university. You will not be able to
use it to access your own files. The advantage of copilot is you can use
copilot to basically go back through your own files and come up with.
363 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:49:03.900 --> 01:49:27.130
With content that way versus going out into the internet and just using
whatever random content like I have on my home, I have cluster of servers
and a few other toys, but I have purchased my own copilot on all our
computers, but obviously best buy price, not not the university price,
and they will do very nicely on the files that are personal.
364 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:49:27.130 --> 01:49:45.310
Just like you do with copilet here and I've got that in a $5 would give
me a Starbucks to try to get to our own files. So, and this is just to
protect us all because we have. And so so the people who wrote the check
to the department or or.
365 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:49:45.310 --> 01:50:05.310
Worked through the university will be able to access because their
department or their foundation or whomever paid for it so it depends
actually where you where you sent your money so yeah I'm curious if the
link that you get, you know, when you go into the software page and you
can purchase like I did busy.
366 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:50:05.310 --> 01:50:20.562
No or whatever, if she used that link, but you paid with a private card,
it was on our site, isn't it? Wouldn't it still be accessible? Yeah, it
should be. I'm familiar mainly with is the automated index the way it's
normally functioning.
367 "Ashley pryor" (1624127488)
01:50:20.562 --> 01:50:22.965
Okay, so so just to clear.
368 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:50:22.965 --> 01:50:26.123
Yeah, thanks for joining.
369 "Ashley pryor" (1624127488)
01:50:26.123 --> 01:51:00.680
So yeah, my I Again I really enjoyed the co pilot even though it is not
my preferred AI, it is a seamless interface with Outlook and so it's very
nice with you know the scheduler et cetera. So I just want to clarify
that when I finished the pilot, my chair couldn't cover it from the
funds. He directed me to a link from the UT site that said for individual
purchase, and I used my own private card cause it can't be a P card with
that denial.
370 "Ashley pryor" (1624127488)
01:51:00.680 --> 01:51:08.683
I just want to make sure I can use it for work as I intended for email et
cetera. Thank you.
371 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:51:08.683 --> 01:51:29.226
If that worked, and I've not seen that as the process, I'm not saying it
can't be, but if that worked, you wouldn't be missing it now because you
would have already automatically loaded. So if you're missing it, it
didn't work. It's. So if you're able to use it now actually with your
Outlook through the UT system, then you're good.
372 "Ashley pryor" (1624127488)
01:51:29.226 --> 01:51:37.366
Great, I just thought I heard that it was gonna be like there was a
security, there would be a security block because it is working and I
think.
373 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:51:37.366 --> 01:51:39.677
Online site outside university system.
374 "Ashley pryor" (1624127488)
01:51:39.677 --> 01:51:42.446
Got it. Thank you. Okay.
375 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:51:42.446 --> 01:51:57.250
Great, got one thing again I'm assuming that if let's say we were able to
let's say due to some confusion unwind the semester, so just just
reinstall everyone.
376 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:51:57.250 --> 01:52:17.250
Reverse the people who paid and say in January let's take $50. Is that
going to help anything at all? Are we gonna be in the same? Would it be
in the same spot or would that be? We refund everybody in the January we
we create a.
377 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:52:17.250 --> 01:52:41.080
Because right now people who buy in October will get 90. We're doing a
probato. So if if that would help, I can pursue that with our CFO a
little bit, but unwinding it. I mean, I don't know. I don't want to do
something that's not gonna help, right? I mean. Save us 50 bucks, that's
not gonna be terrible. If nobody's gonna take up, then it was sort of a
waste of effort.
378 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:52:41.080 --> 01:53:01.080
This is all very interesting strategy. So, but, but you're, you're
predicting perhaps the next fall it's all gonna be embedded anyway. Well
1200, yeah, that looks I mean that's a pretty good take up man. I I don't
know where the students are, I think the students are at about 900 right
now. And would it be embedded for them as well? I would say the marketing
to the students was not great.
379 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:53:01.080 --> 01:53:16.540
In terms of, you know, the awareness and so forth. So will it also be
embedded for the students in the fall given the uptake? Amongst students
that that would become a tech fee issue, I think. Okay, yeah. Okay, so
just talking about the faculty. The staff employees. Yeah.
380 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:53:16.540 --> 01:53:33.670
And we can make this available. Our foundation and you know our
affiliates have that ETP position group foundation we've offered that the
donors who are alumni, they can take advantage of this, which is for them
personally, that's the.
381 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:53:33.670 --> 01:53:53.670
So we can't just say, well, we've had enough update, we're just gonna
embed it now. I, well, I can throw that up to the CFO. But that would be
popular. Would y'all think? Do you want to take a vote, said it? For free
like next week.
382 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:53:53.670 --> 01:54:19.660
We we negotiated some savings in my budget, which is how we funded the
the trial period forever covered that ourselves because it thought it was
valuable. So I still think it is we're gonna be working on the citizen
developer model where we actually provide more capability than just a co
pilot for certain people that have taken researchers.
383 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:54:19.660 --> 01:54:39.250
People who are doing some sort of quasi development and there are some
really good tools that we can use to not more often for. Yeah, so I Yes,
we have a couple of questions from the floor David. Do you have Patrick.
Thank you. Well, we're not.
384 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:54:39.250 --> 01:54:55.990
You are the final person on the agenda. Go ahead David. And dr. McCurry,
Dave chief medical education and we've met, I have some faculty and staff
that have been, maybe they fall into bucket three, they've been
developing.
385 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:54:55.990 --> 01:55:11.560
Yep using AI tools to, that there is interest for education that there's
interest in other institutions wanting to utilize these tools. So talking
about.
386 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:55:11.560 --> 01:55:27.700
Building things with like secure sign on and then also some of the tools
would, would need to access things like further protected data like
grades and things like that for building tools for.
387 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:55:27.700 --> 01:55:47.700
Dashboards and things for our learning management systems within the
college medicine. And I know there were some issues that needed to be
resolved to do those things securely. I'm wondering what the status is on
that. That's an important item, that's why I was talking about it.
388 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:55:47.700 --> 01:56:07.700
The I'll call it citizen developer or whatever and eventually maybe we're
all good developers or nobody's gonna be a developers which way, whether
it's histopia or histopia, but the the idea that it was one of the last
things our group, our work group of.
389 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:56:07.700 --> 01:56:38.940
We were working with, ok, we've got this way to develop it. How about
people that are kind of on the edge are doing things so we've said, ok,
let's build up citizen platform and we're in the process of doing that
when we came up on three or four people doing just already got they're
out of the bar, right? And we're still figuring out how to construct the
bar, right? And so we know roughly what to put together and the one one
person I think we're talking about, she was using some mixture of
Microsoft. It was kind of a high.
390 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:56:38.940 --> 01:57:08.250
Every bunch of things. You have cloud code, which by the way you can
access through the the type three development platform of Microsoft. They
got GitHub copilot which is really a product developed between Microsoft
and OpenAI. And so I was jointly built and that's like a cloud code with
software. Very similar, and then I've got all all the other little
parafenellia around that code control testing.
391 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:57:08.250 --> 01:57:36.610
And and then we can apply that to the power platform of Microsoft and do
a lot of it. People can do a lot of interesting thing. Terry Homer is
sort of a example for those of you who know Terry's style. We made him
kind of a citizen developer style person, and he's now pretty much out of
control so that's something that's important to us. We do need to get
back to her and and the others. We have others that have done this.
392 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:57:36.610 --> 01:57:56.610
And, the beauty of my situation, my youngest son is a PHDMV. He he's a
genomics leader at Genentech. He's an AI guy and we talk all the time and
he he is he'll give me the other side of things and Patrick, did you have
a question and then follow up on the.
393 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:57:56.610 --> 01:58:16.610
Was the answer then it's it seems like it's a yes that we we encourage or
allow faculty to build, we gotta get the can't operationalize it. Go
ahead, we need to get that in place. We need the barn. Yeah, we need the
bar. Which is in part response I'm sorry Patrick, did you Patrick
lawrence.
394 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:58:16.610 --> 01:58:36.610
Did you want to ask it? Well, it was, it was more of a comment rather as
a question, and it's broader than just coal pilot. I mean I think
institution institution we need to be thinking about professional
practices where this technology is gonna continue to advance. It's gonna
be something that our faculty and staff are gonna wanna make and students
make use of whether it's coal.
395 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:58:36.610 --> 01:59:05.460
By tomorrow it's gonna be something else, next year it's gonna be
something else. But I think we need to have a philosophy that we're
looking at these, the value to the institution, and if we're gonna
recognize that, then we need to set and forth the procedures of how we're
gonna roll, implement, how it's gonna pay for it, what the security
protocols need to be rather than a situation where we're backing into
something, doing as a trial, then seeing how many people use it, then
offering, well, ok, you want to continue, we're gonna measure how much.
396 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:59:05.460 --> 01:59:25.460
If people are using it by their willingness to individually pay or
departments pay that and then determine whether we're gonna continue with
it. I know we're caught in this kind of loop with this. My broader point
is moving forward, we need to do a better job as an institution in
thinking through our our adoption of technologies because it's coming at
us very fast.
397 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:59:25.460 --> 01:59:57.690
So we're ready to provide our staff, our students and our faculty with
these tools. I talked to colleagues and other institutions who are a year
ahead of what we're doing here. And when I talk to them about I mean,
some of the challenges are just fundamental, the costs, security,
technical staffing, I understand all that, but they're saying we're,
they're already rolling out, implementing these. They're already
providing these, they're ahead of the faculty staff kind of needs. Again,
my just my personal observation, I know it's a challenging environment
today with technology, but we're as an institution, we are.
398 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
01:59:57.690 --> 02:00:17.690
Behind in supporting our folks to use this work, we need to be more
proactive and figure out because this is just gonna get more challenging
for all of us. We the the just so you know, the, the pilot or the
evaluations that we did had 92 % adoption and the the metrics that might.
399 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:00:17.690 --> 02:00:40.890
Microsoft had said we were one of the highest that had ever seen for the
adoption of an evaluation. Well, that's a market based strategy to see if
we should adopt something that's a useful tool, which is a very old
fashioned way of doing things. And I think what's coming up here in the
chat and in Patrick's comment and in what David said, you talking about
building the barn are those larger issues of AI security of what is
happening when the barn is.
400 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:00:40.890 --> 02:01:00.890
Biz craft or the barn has a window or barn. People are finding the bar
and I think that when dr. Prior says they're both promises and apparels
associated with technology, she's alarmed at the apparent absence of
sustained conversation, at least at faculty level. I do understand there
is an AI advisory task force, correct? That was formed last year or maybe
under Scott's.
401 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:01:00.890 --> 02:01:20.890
Proposed. So there is an AI task force and we have talked for the pro
host office about having people from that task force come and that does
have faculty on it, come to Senate. And so in part, there might be a
little bit more progress than people are experiencing in their everyday
lives and administrative lives at this point, but we need to find that
out.
402 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:01:20.890 --> 02:01:40.890
We need to know that and so it's just four weeks into the semester, so
we're still trying to figure out what has been, what progress has been
made on the fronts that you're addressing there, Ashley. Yes. Same topic.
I mean, it seems to be that there are various groups on campus working
with AI on so we.
403 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:01:40.890 --> 02:02:00.890
Just all bring them in contact and know who they are. I mean, I'm on the
AI reading group teaching with AI. We just, we just met today. It would
be nice to know who, what other groups are there. Yeah. So I mean can we
there's a security issue, there's the tools issue, and there's the
teaching issue.
404 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:02:00.890 --> 02:02:28.560
Okay, yeah, so I think that those conversations need to be both bucketed,
as you were saying. But also that like the the the agents that David's
people are building are not there for teaching, right? Yep. Yeah, that
could be a really good idea. Yeah, so yeah, my my my request is could we
please communicate across all these different groups? No.
405 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:02:28.560 --> 02:02:51.300
Who they are, know how to contact them, and maybe that's the AI task
force needs to be addressing that question. Well, Bill is in, in charge
of the security piece of the AI task force, and then Jean is in charge of
the teaching group of the AI task force. And so these and then they're.
406 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:02:51.300 --> 02:03:23.520
For other subgroups, they are doing quite a lot. As we said, we would
bring all of those players together to give reports on on on what they're
doing. So just final follow up until the timeline for the barn, which the
horses are already running out of this. Actually, it's on my so more than
happy to show you my task list. It's actually one of my eight priorities
to get this in place.
407 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:03:23.520 --> 02:03:43.800
And we're going through that, a test process of making sure that if
somebody did something that was surprising, how do we catch it quickly
and, and contain it before it became a problem? Not that we really don't
trust people, they can make a mistake and whether you realize it or not,
we've been now developing and.
408 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:03:43.800 --> 02:04:08.800
By the way, my group, we didn't know AI was such a big, we were using it
in 2017, we put agents on our network. I reported the board in my cyber
report and nobody asked a question. AI, who cares, right? So it was, now
it's become very popular, and one of the things, most of my career that
I've had and obviously in global companies.
409 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:04:08.800 --> 02:04:28.800
Technology's more strategic, where it's it's, it's it's enabling things
that we're talking about what can technology do? Generally my experience
here is that technology is a necessary tool, but not strategic. So it's
about doing whatever you can do at the lowest cost, right? So it's been a
different, a little different.
410 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:04:28.800 --> 02:05:10.907
Like technology Mindset for you, you mean in terms of we have one that we
do it ourselves because we had to plan the environment for five years
out, you know, we can't have things like a year at a time. So we have
these things planned but it's not really embedded into the overall.
Almost was, it almost was a couple of years. There are some good comments
in the chat that I wanted to highlight. Joan, I'm not sure Joan, what
you're referring to, at least a range of some tools but not very specific
or restrictive since certain tools cannot handle certain tasks. Can you
elaborate?
411 "Murumba, Joan" (3381993728)
02:05:10.907 --> 02:05:38.987
Yes, I was just talking about the reference to co pilot so if we are very
restrictive and at the same time talking about professional development
with all these tools, so it beats the logic of having the other trainings
on other tools and then we restrict ourselves to only one tool.
412 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:05:38.987 --> 02:05:52.660
Okay, does that that's clear? Yeah, but it's saying before Microsoft is a
tool, it's a platform over, you can pick whatever tools you like
underneath it. If you like anthropic.
413 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:05:52.660 --> 02:06:12.660
They're putting more lama, whatever models. Yeah, tools. It's a thing
that covers and you can use whatever tool you like in there. So that's,
that's an ugly, it's agnostic. Barber minor brings up another question
and that is an issue, and we've had several students draw the course.
414 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:06:12.660 --> 02:06:46.530
To ask students to actually use AI for one assignment they objected a
moral basis. We need to have more transparent discussions about how we
deploy AI and her follow up on that is I think students should be made
aware of that the institution be made aware of the institution's efforts
on AI. There's a great deal of fear and even revolvent level that AI and
if it's a just in fact a tool, it doesn't act like other tools. The
ethical question is how we don't become its tool. Yes, that's that's in
redlines these days yes.
415 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:06:46.530 --> 02:07:13.020
Yeah, if I can address that, we, in medicine, we just had some students
who really had an issue of us using AI student forward, you know, like so
in powerpoints or you know using it and you know we've developed within
the college of medicine for education, for medical education, a policy
and a.
416 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:07:13.020 --> 02:07:47.370
Standard an SOP a standard operating procedure for our faculty to give
guidance on how to use AI, and one of those things is the transparency of
it and we've met with the medical students, their leadership, the, their
student association, and we've, we've been trying and it's largely been
successful at sort of tamping down the upperwork, but this is not gonna
go away. There's across the country there's there's growing.
417 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:07:47.370 --> 02:08:07.370
Pushback on the AI from students and also in, in the, in the medical
program. So we're dealing with that but if anybody's interested in what
we've developed for, a, a a policy, which is still in draft form or the
standard operating procedure that.
418 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:08:07.370 --> 02:08:24.550
I've been working on, I'd be happy to share that and get for others to
look at, but also to get input on. So either through the AI task force
perhaps or just through senate. I don't know the best way to communicate,
but that Dean communicates Dean to Dean and college to college
communication.
419 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:08:24.550 --> 02:08:42.850
Would be really important, yeah. So I and and and and Barbara's comment
about students dropping the class, so not aware that they were gonna be
asked to do assignments with AI, it, it I as I'm recalling our syllabuye
statements.
420 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:08:42.850 --> 02:09:02.850
That, something like that would be covered as in informing students that
ok in this class we are going to utilize or the students utilization of
AI, not the faculty's utilization of AI. In terms of, in terms of.
421 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:09:02.850 --> 02:09:30.060
If if if an assignment is required in this class to ask the students to
utilize AI that they wouldn't be aware, and again, I go back to the task
force, so that those statements came out of the teaching group the
curriculum group of the task force. But, but yes, I I think we do need to
do more to inform students of how we're using.
422 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:09:30.060 --> 02:09:58.230
If we're going to be using, this, you know, this notion of the I've
called it the backlash, the revolsion of of AI is certainly where we seem
to be in that period now. So Barbara, does that help to review the AI
statements that were put out by the teaching and learning by Jeanie
Katina in terms of making sure students know in advance, and then yes,
they may drop the.
423 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:09:58.230 --> 02:10:04.584
Course if the faculty puts that statement on there saying I will be
asking you to use AI, they may drop the course.
424 "Barbara Miner" (786592256)
02:10:04.584 --> 02:10:18.585
Yeah, correct. They can they can drop the course. I think that the
reality of being asked to actually do it, I don't know that every student
reads everything. I'm sorry to say.
425 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:10:18.585 --> 02:10:23.563
No, they don't read silly sometimes.
426 "Barbara Miner" (786592256)
02:10:23.563 --> 02:10:46.360
So it's just it I think we need to have, maybe even from an institutional
level out saying that this is how we're dealing with AI, I think there
needs to be a larger message, and I think there needs to be reassurance
and it can't just come from.
427 "Barbara Miner" (786592256)
02:10:46.360 --> 02:11:06.360
Faculty. I think that AI is impacting people in many many ways beyond
simply looking up stuff on the internet or processing things more
quickly. It is impacting landowners, it is impacting.
428 "Barbara Miner" (786592256)
02:11:06.360 --> 02:11:27.444
Communities, the physical aspects of what it takes to create and support
AI product. So I think there are a lot of things that play here and it's
not simply about an assignment it goes deeper than that.
429 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:11:27.444 --> 02:11:30.280
Thanks.
430 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:11:30.280 --> 02:11:50.280
So what we will promise is Senate in the and we will discuss in FSEC this
coming week is how we can continue to have conversations like this
because this was kind of a fire hose, in our Senate meeting and how we
can utilize the AI task force and the pieces of the AI.
431 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:11:50.280 --> 02:12:14.440
Task force to help us understand and also that probably there won't be a
university policy on AI ever because it's more complicated than that.
Like we will or will not use it or do it this way or do it that way.
There'll be pieces of it coming out over time. So I think that that's the
best way to think about it is it is a work in progress both building the
barn to protect.
432 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:12:14.440 --> 02:12:34.440
To make sure that people aren't poorly behaved with their agents and
figuring out this, the various things about AI that we need to be
communicating, if that makes sense. And, and we've had and I thank you
Renee, it was not the last meeting, the meeting before Jean's
presentation. Yep. On laying out.
433 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:12:34.440 --> 02:13:03.130
Not all of the workshops, trainings, upcoming, I would say pieces of the
conversation, now that was specifically on AI and teaching. Now we've had
AI and security, which it sounds like maybe the the takeaway is we're
building it or we're trying to build it. Yeah. Yeah. And we are in
progress is uneven across universities for sure. Yeah.
434 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:13:03.130 --> 02:13:21.790
So we have 4 min and Tomer accused me before of stealing time from you
all, which is not true, I never have but we do have items, I just wanted
to open it back up to questions for dr. mccurriey in case there's
something else on this that we should.
435 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:13:21.790 --> 02:13:41.790
Discuss right now that's urgent I mean, I think the pilot issue was a
real Microsoft pilot was really like something that could be asked and
answered. The rest of this is gonna be in progress. Ashley says thanks,
the thoughtful reassurance from the institution could settle the waters
and make students feel more comfortable. Yes, we are doing something
about it. Maybe you just say that.
436 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:13:41.790 --> 02:14:09.660
VIII. Items from the Floor
We're doing something with this. We're working on it. Yeah, absolutely.
So thank you. Thank you for coming. Some items from the floor is our next
and I know that Sharon had an announcement and items from the floor. Just
really quickly, most of you probably know that we lost our dear
colleague, dr. Asmab.
437 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:14:09.660 --> 02:14:29.660
To Helene around this time last year and the department's been, the
Department of women's in Gender Studies has been working on a memorial
scholarship in her name and we finally are up and running with that
scholarship, so those of you who liked her donators who do it through.
438 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:14:29.660 --> 02:14:51.240
Thank you. Brilliant, thank you. Other items from the floor? I just have
one announcement to remind in response to one of Jay's questions on the
chat. All of the transcripts of our meetings are going to be on the
Senate website. Transcripts.
439 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:14:51.240 --> 02:15:22.810
And recordings. We are NO longer sending them out in your email boxes,
but they are on the website. So if you want to review this conversation,
it will be marked on that recorded transcript by the agenda item that is
dr. mcquarry old business Copilot, e.g.. So it will be easy to find. You
just have to be proactive and go to the website to find the records, the
transcripted, you know, verbatim records. And that's why I'm trying to
say people's names before they speak.
440 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:15:22.810 --> 02:15:38.740
So that you can utilize that tool, but we will NO longer be transcripting
it by hand the way has been doing for the last many years. That was voted
on last year. So the minutes that go out are just one piece of what is
available to you in the afternoff of these meetings.
441 "Wade Lee-Smith (he/him) Libraries" (1979752448)
02:15:38.740 --> 02:16:02.922
President Heaverly? Yes. Do you know what the time period is when those
will go up? Because currently the website only has the agenda for the 1st
two meetings and minutes for the 1st meeting, but NO summary, NO
transcripts and NO recording linked on the website. So, do we know how
soon after a meeting those might go up?
442 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:16:02.922 --> 02:16:19.320
Thank you very much, Wade Lee for that. We will, we are still working on
the timelines of getting these in place and Quinetta is working with the
technology and recordings to try to get this in place. So the timeline
will be reduced significantly.
443 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:16:19.320 --> 02:16:26.106
From now on and by this week those previous recordings and transcripts
will be up.
444 "Wade Lee-Smith (he/him) Libraries" (1979752448)
02:16:26.106 --> 02:16:30.744
Perfect. Thank you very much.
445 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:16:30.744 --> 02:16:42.280
IX. Adjournment
Okay, my consent agenda, we are out of here.
446 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:16:42.280 --> 02:17:02.280
I appreciate it. Yeah.
447 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:17:02.280 --> 02:17:22.280
But I betted if we get a day one. That'll be.
448 "Hubbard, Quinetta L." (3566651904)
02:17:22.280 --> 02:17:25.990
Oh, thank you.